tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post1370534472644723092..comments2024-02-10T21:04:22.822-05:00Comments on The Familyhood Church: Tripping in that HandbasketKevin Knoxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16788817477327510023noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-18384406238209233692007-06-10T14:15:00.000-04:002007-06-10T14:15:00.000-04:00Nadal and Henin - two 3peats ... pretty amazing!Nadal and Henin - two 3peats ... pretty amazing!kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-29002157299092587422007-06-08T19:13:00.000-04:002007-06-08T19:13:00.000-04:00Well Oloryn, I think you win the deepest thought p...Well Oloryn, I think you win the deepest thought prize hands down. :-)<BR/><BR/>That God might take the time to earn our respect is a new way of looking at the problem. It's an idea with merit. It's certainly true that He did a couple things that should earn our respect. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for something to think about.Kevin Knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16788817477327510023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-92035055771346988452007-06-07T01:18:00.000-04:002007-06-07T01:18:00.000-04:00Lemme add something else to the picture. I've lon...Lemme add something else to the picture. I've long distinguished two different types of authority, or perhaps two different ways authority works. One I'll label 'positional' authority - this is authority you have because you're been given a particular position, and authority goes with the position. Positional authority is granted from above - it's handed down from someone with greater authority, and is essentially instant.<BR/><BR/>The other I'll label 'recognized' or 'earned' authority - this is typically authority that arises from having consistently showed some excellence or expertise. E.g. someone who has consistently showed knowledge and practical experience in dealing with computers and their problems would be considered an 'authority on computers'. Earned authority is granted from 'below' and takes time.<BR/><BR/>(I'll parenthetically note that one problem we run into is that people who have been granted positional authority sometimes erroneously expect that they should automatically get the kind of respect that goes with earned authority)<BR/><BR/>Once I'd made this distinction, I pondered a bit and realized that while Jesus had (and has) all positional authority, and in the Gospels exercised it when dealing with demons, illness, and nature; when dealing with people, Jesus seems to have operated according to the rules of earned authority. He tells the demons not to expose His position so as not to short-cut the process. He often tries to keep healings and miracles quiet. After months of leading his disciples, he <B>finally</B> turns to them and asks "and who do you say that I am?". When confronted by the Pharisees and the council, His response is typically "My words and deeds have been public, what do they tell you?".<BR/><BR/>Given that "he who has seen Me has seen the Father" (John 14:9), there's a possibility that this reflects God's dealings with us in general now. While we'll eventually have to deal with the full Authority of God, in the present He seems to operate in some ways according to the rules of earned authority.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure where this goes from here, but it seemed thought-provoking to me.Olorynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17042191530693591797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-73121275118612837782007-06-06T23:48:00.000-04:002007-06-06T23:48:00.000-04:00I sometimes wonder if I am working hard enough to ...I sometimes wonder if I am working hard enough to know Him.<BR/><BR/>Glad you wrote this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-6660126869232898442007-06-06T14:13:00.000-04:002007-06-06T14:13:00.000-04:00Ditto what you said on the resurrection!Ditto what you said on the resurrection!kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-20521979833853520122007-06-05T19:04:00.000-04:002007-06-05T19:04:00.000-04:00Sorry to hear you're not well, KB! If you have to ...Sorry to hear you're not well, KB! If you have to be ill, being so with the Quarters on is a good thing. :-), but I'm sorry even as I'm jealous. <BR/><BR/>> Maybe a bit nitpicky but I think that the heart of the gospel is that we do not initiate <BR/><BR/><BR/>I'm just grinning over here in Ohio. I have been called out for not being Calvinist enough. :-D<BR/><BR/>Your challenge has given life to a new post. And it's too late. You cannot stop it now. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Here I will say that man's will is involved in the process of his salvation. I agree with you that man's will is not the first step in the process, but it is meaningfully involved. A man must be willing to come to Christ, so that is the question. <BR/><BR/>Being a calvinist makes it easier for me to say that.<BR/><BR/>As for God in the ordinary things of life, I agree that He's there and beautiful. I'm not sure, though, that these things draw anyone toward belief. I think they tend to draw people toward humanism. The resurrection of Christ, though, that's a thing that cannot be misinterpretted. It can only be denied or submitted to.Kevin Knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16788817477327510023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-52459357192329927462007-06-05T16:52:00.000-04:002007-06-05T16:52:00.000-04:00Thinking about you CP as I am home ill watching th...Thinking about you CP as I am home ill watching the French qtrfinals - looks like another win for Federer ... in 4 sets ... but it ain't over ... who am I kiddin - Nadal and Roger in the finals?kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-83877537352919409492007-06-05T09:34:00.000-04:002007-06-05T09:34:00.000-04:00PS: Nice new blog background color.PS: Nice new blog background color.kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20104292.post-60462665767473278172007-06-05T09:33:00.000-04:002007-06-05T09:33:00.000-04:00I wonder CP if:"The question is whether you are wi...I wonder CP if:<BR/><BR/><I>"The question is whether you are willing to come to Him."</I><BR/><BR/>should be:<BR/><BR/><I>The question is will you respond to His pursuit of you.</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe a bit nitpicky but I think that the heart of the gospel is that we do not initiate ... we can only respond to the Spirit's conviction and revelation.<BR/><BR/>An argument from this perspective is different though. It says that God really doesn't hide but manifests Himself in the ordinary things of life like chldbirth, romance, joy, friendship and glorious natural events like sunsets.<BR/><BR/>I believe that He pursues us in subtlety but not in silence. Life screams at us about God but we have hardened our hearts, our minds, our emotions and our souls to His voice.<BR/><BR/>The good news is that everything can change in an instant ... with one prayer it can be well with our souls.kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.com